Hey everyone, does anyone have any news on the next Fuse series printer? I’m looking around and am tempted by the raise3d SLS printer, since Formlabs hasn’t released a new product yet.
Interesting… I don’t know but I like that additional volume in the X and Y for sure… getting closer to what I been requesting for a wider but “lower” Z height for our larger parts…to minimize the “gamble” in a taller orientation with possible layer shift or problem ruining an entire chamber at once.
Gotta say…that “Sift” looks really familiar…
If the footprint of that printer is near the same as Fuse1 I wonder about thermal uniformity across that larger build volume (part warpage etc). I wondered the same about the micronics offering. At 40K for the printer and sifting machine Its difficult for me to see the value there, compared with the know quantity in formlabs, hardware, support, spare parts availability, etc. Where is this company located?
Shanghai, China
Oh, I mean, if Formlabs were to break into the market again with a new Fuse printer like this, of course I would buy Formlabs, but we’ve been waiting years for a new sls printer from our trusted brand!
The difference in machine price + maintenance/support could be offset by material costs depending on your usage. I’ve received quotes on Chinese powder at 1/3 of the cost but can’t justify buying the OMM.
Hi everybody,
We’ve just released a comparison of the Fuse Ecosystem vs. Raise3D on our website. Feel free to check it out for an overview on the differences in offerings and available information: link.
Rest assured that we’re continuously working to expand and improve our own product portfolio, and we’ll share any announcements with the world as soon as they’re ready!
Best,
Sophia
Hi Sophia, It’s clear that Formlabs is a reliable company, but it hasn’t innovated in the SLS fuse space lately. Many are waiting for a “Fuse 2” with a larger print area, a max 0.08mm layer, and quick and easy material changes. As of today, if a company were to buy a new SLS, perhaps Raise3D would offer something more innovative on paper, in my opinion.
The data reported is incorrect, raise3d starts at €26,999.00 for the Raise3D RMS220 3D Printer with Build Unit 220 and one-year warranty.
Thanks for your note! There is a $4000 installation fee for the Raise3D that we included in the price comparison, since it seems to be compulsory. This is indicated on our comparison page as well.
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That thing is vaporware at this point, IMO. It will be interested to see if they actually offer it at the quoted price, and then how they deal with the inevitable teething issues, etc. Sure, it would be nice to have a slightly larger X/Y plane but until they release any specifications testing done on that build chamber I am highly doubtful they can maintain adequate thermal uniformity for the additional build volume (for it to be usable).
I’ve owned a Raise3D FDM printer, and while it was very reliable, the support for it was atrocious. One of the biggest pluses for anything from Formlabs for me has been the great support and community. I have similar experiences with more expensive Chinese FDM machines as well (eg. Flashforge Creator 4). In my opinion, if you buy the Raise3D machine you’re pretty much on your own once it lands at your door.
I’m not aware of this $4,000 installation fee; I’ve even discussed it with the European market manager. However, my preference would obviously be a FUSE 2 with a better laser, larger work area, a Z layer of up to 0.08mm (like the HP MJF or the Raise, which has an even lower Z layer), easy material change (but I know everyone tries not to implement this in order to sell more printers…), and Formlabs software experience. I need to buy two printers soon to complement my HP MJF, and I was hoping Formlabs would release something new, perhaps at Formnext in Frankfurt in November. I can’t spend more than $100,000 on two printers that will soon (1 or 2 years?) be obsolete!
This was the initial fear of those who bought the fdm bambulabs, luckily they are made so well that there are no big problems with them
We have a “local” company that supports Raise3D machines, but even then you will have to wait a substantial amount of time to get it fixed.
I agree with you that this is where Formlabs makes a huge difference.
@Paolo I think the Fuse1 wil not become obsolete in 1-2 years but that also depends on your use case, I have the same issue with finding a micro 3D printer that fits my budget and will not be outperformed (with features I would have liked) in 6 months or so.
Bambulab has good support. Not as good as FL but vastly better than the majority of other Chinese companies. They routinely update their machines, firmware, and slicer and have a large community.
Raise3D and Flashforge have decent hardware but they basically never put out updates and don’t support their machines very far past initial release.
I have had a good experience with Bambulabs support so far. From shipping issues to a broken printer, they’ve been very helpful.
formlabs is better, but I think it’s not a fair comparison…
Did you include the cumpulsory service fee on the fuse 1 as well?
I have had some issues with slow response time but once issues were acknowledged, I have had very good experiences with bambu labs customer support as well.
They innovate new machines at a blinding rate. I’m interested to see if they dip their toes into sla and sls.
I had a wanhao d7 dlp printer that ran circles around my form 2 and was open source.
It’s actually possible to purchase a Fuse printer without a service plan - although it’s true that this was not always the case.