New Fuse Update and Powder estimates

Thought this was interesting…

We always knew the powder estimate in PreForm was always a little low…but the new Fuse firmware update with its “fine tuned powder monitoring” seems to be now showing a more realistic total.

PreForms estimate

Fuse estimate for the same job

As you can see…while the kg is the same…the Liters are now shown at about 2.09L more than the Preform estimate…

Which in my experience, I believe this new Fuse Liter estimate more than PreForm… but this brings up the issue with “quoting jobs” and getting realistic usage amounts…to not include even the wasted powder in the pre print vacuuming etc…

Just interesting they could not get the PreForm and Fuse update to match.

Or…am I reading this wrong?

When I see “Total Powder”…I assume that’s the Total powder overall? But if you add Total Powder (L) with “Sintered Powder” (L) then yea…you get closer to what the Fuse is saying now…

But if you take that same assumption and add “Total Powder in kg with Sintered Powder in kg”…?!

***And yes… I understand the “reasoning given” for listing the new Fuse 1+ in L versus the original Fuse in kg for it’s hopper (even though the engineer’s didn’t seem to come up with that till the next Fuse release)… but with now “L” the only thing you have to go off of when actually confirming you have enough powder for the job…you would think that PreForm (where you slice and estimate the job) could match the actual Fuse print.

For instance…if I were to slice a job, see the estimate as being 9.36 L in PreForm for the job…send it to the Fuse…look at my hopper and see 10 L of powder in there…I would think I’d be good…until I noticed the different value in small print on the actual Fuse’s estimate

What am I missing here…?

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Wow, 2L off is crazy! I’ve had some close calls on running out of powder, so I know the PreForm estimate isn’t a safe number to work off… but that’s much worse than I expected.

I’m very curious why the Fuse is calculating such a different value for total powder.

yea I think there is intentionally a lot of “fluff” in these guesstimates…to make it seem like you are using a lot less powder and money than you actually are per print job and per part.

Makes it difficult to quote out jobs outside of your own in-house products. Every time I try to calculate a reasonable cost per part for other folks…I always find it hard. Hence sticking to those “aerospace and defense” prices…those terms that often get tossed around in the additive manufacturing world! Ha

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Thank you for bringing this to our attention!

Minor variation between the PreForm and Fuse powder estimates is known (due to calculation differences that we are actively optimizing), but the discrepancy you found is unusually high and likely a bug. Our team is investigating this issue and will share an update here as soon as we have one!

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