Early test show that the clear resin IS lost-wax castable!

@Ben

http://www.dwssystems.com/cms/file/downloads/schede/irix_technical_datas.pdf this sounds very interesting…

BlueEdge Laser sounds a lot like Form1 compatible :slight_smile:

Can anyone run me a test print on the form1? - paid

Thanks

@Ben if you find somebody who can do this, please let me know… I am looking at getting a few samples printed too!

@Ben I’d also be very happy to pay for a print or two. If you find someone please let me know.

anyone in the los angeles area doing this lost-wax-casting with the form1 prints successfully, please contact me i’d love to have some prints molded/casted. email me,

stephen @ seriks .com

Hi everyone,

I’m an italian jeweler… i saw the form 1 and i think that it’s really useful… but as you all i would like to try to cast some pieces… so is here anyone who could print for me and send me the printed pieces?? i’ll post the resultin order to improve the research of this aspect… maybe formlabs will develop a casting resin.

Here in Italy ( specially in Vicenza and in Rome) the research in jewerly field is very important a lot of people is using 3D Printers and cating process to get jewel… The form 1 would be very competitive and useful… i think is the same story all over the world…

Thankk you all :slight_smile:

We need the castable resin for the FORM1 as soon as possible. Every similar SLA printer offers castable resin, so it must not be “rocket science” to develop. It just comes down to whether or not the jewelry sector is a high priority for Form Labs or not. And if it’s not, we deserve to know, so that we can sell our printers and get something else that does support castable resin (B9 creator, DigitalWax Systems, Asiga, Kevvox, Envisiontec)

@ Ben Proctor. I tried printing with the b9 red resin and what happened was, the initial layers and until about half the print comes out almost perfect, but then you start seeing thickening of the print and degradation of the print, because the pigment starts to settle and is not being mixed enough using the tilt peel mechanism. I suppose the b9 resin is a little too liquid for the form1 and the pigment settles fast. I would love to try the DWS castable resin from RioGrande, but it’s about $350 with shipping. Anyone want to go half and half with me and test it?

http://www.riogrande.com/Product/DigitalWax-DC500-Casting-Resin-for-Rapid-Prototyping/700966?Pos=2

@ Monger, not each printer which claims to have a castable resin do so. most of them are tricky.

also, if anyone can offer me the option to print me models for trail (with decent payment). please make contact with me- omri.ezer@gmail.com.

i believe we can do the casting process pretty well at our facilities.

@omri ezer

Also, not all casters who claim can cast pretty well can cast resin prints. I’ve casted envisionech prints for people who already gave up on the machine because the casting gave them so much trouble. I’ve casted b9 prints with ease, and they claim their resin is castable, and it really is. Almost as good as wax I would say. Most casters out there are used to casting wax and the resin is a new thing for them (it’s not the same as casting plastic either)

Monger, great job on testing and documenting your progress with custom resin mixtures!  I’m a dental lab guy and am after the highest possible print resolution and good casting of the resin, like you jewelry guys.  Keep up the good work.

Have you seen my dental lab casting-related thread (https://support.formlabs.com/entries/25139228-Dental-lab-tests-printing-teeth-lost-wax-investing-burnout-gold-casting-and-lithium-disilicate-glass)? I’ve done some testing with the Form1 resin and it’s worked perfectly using my standard Microstar High Strength investment.  My point is, I’m not sure your resin needs to be changed… you may just need to use a different investment.  Take a look at my procedures in that thread if you haven’t already done so.  I use a 14 minute bench-set time after investing, then go straight into a very hot burnout oven for 1 hour, then cast the piece.  It’s worked every time with a nice dense, smooth casting.  I’ve even tried it with pressing glass into the mold too, and the glass came out clean.  The resin burns out with a lot of smoke initially, but it does burn out completely at high temperature from what I’ve seen in my intitial tests.

My castings are fairly small compared with some of the pieces you are doing, but with a little longer burnout time it should still work fine.  Also, the Microstar HS investment is very hard, so breaking the piece out takes awhile compared to other soft investments.

Have you tried other investments yet?

Mark, thank you. I did try different types of investment (mainly satincast and plasticast). I’m sure those dental investments are not cheap :wink:

It should be relatively easy to cast pretty much any plastic, however for jewelry you need to cast tiny prongs and fine detail. The current resin just doesn’t cut it.

We are working on testing another resin form digital wax systems, and should be posting the results soon on another thread.

https://support.formlabs.com/entries/28092333-New-hybrid-resin-mix

Hello everyone,

If you require some 3D samples printed, I can help.
Pease send me an e-mail at nessigigi@gmail.com.

Best regards,
Emiliano

I came across this article the other day on the Ganoksin website. It’s a type of casting plaster that gets really hot and can be used to reduce production times and is used to burn out rapid prototyping materials.

Could this be an option? Maybe this with a a regular burn out cycle could result in a clean mold for casting?

You thoughts?

Here’s the link to the article:

And the site for the product - scroll to the bottom of the home page for more tech info

MadeSolid is offering a casting material specifically for the Form1 now.  http://madesolid.com/casting-resin.html

So with your notes, it looks like a 6 hour burnout, is that correct? I typically use a 2.5"x2.5" flask.