# Third form1+ machine - LASER FAIL! I am about to jump!

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**Category:** Support & Troubleshooting\
**Created:** [December 14, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/third-form1-machine-laser-fail-i-am-about-to-jump/2928 "2014-12-14T21:47:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![KevinHolmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ec8ea/32.png) [@KevinHolmes](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/KevinHolmes)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/third-form1-machine-laser-fail-i-am-about-to-jump/2928/7 "2014-12-15T07:35:52Z")

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@JoshK That image of mine is before the Form1+ - and yes it’s clear that the laser light has been squared off by the galvo mirrors, but since the Form1+ I haven’t seen anyone posting laser issues with squared off spots.

It does look like there’s an x-axis horizontal line in Ralph’s most recent shot - jeffperrin also posted a pic of him having trouble with a Form1+ laser also showing a horizontal line - ([Are your prints failing because your laser focus is degraded?](http://forum.formlabs.com/t/are-your-prints-failing-because-your-laser-focus-is-degraded/1120/65)) - but he didn’t provide any details of the issues he was having, and he only followed up to say mirror cleaning (including galvos) improved things “but not perfect” - so nothing conclusive there.

@Ralph_Roberts that “spot” in your latest picture definitely looks bad - I’ll be very disappointed if the Form1+ laser also suffers failures - have you checked the galvo mirrors and the middle mirror as well? you’d need to remove the back cover - and a very bright torch shone side-on will help inspecting them.

A speck on the laser lens as per Bruce\_Boone’s worst case scenario would be a real problem - and I’d guess it might mean returning the machine - although perhaps you could try using a lens puffer on the laser on the off-chance that was the issue and that it shifted the offending speck.

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