# It's a pretty solid printer and process! (AKA lifetime stats!)

**URL:** <https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 25, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984 "2017-04-25T18:51:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![areffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/areffelt/32/15255_2.png) [@areffelt](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/areffelt)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/1 "2017-04-25T18:51:28Z")

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It just keeps getting better and better on the Form 2. Printing with Durable and Tough has got to be the easiest time I’ve had, and success rates are awesome.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/5/5a602fc4b6005a161063e04ab1d398516219b0ac.png)

Can’t wait to see how long this printer (replacement 3/27) will keep it’s streak running 😀

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**Author:** ![kevinduhe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/kevinduhe/32/7999_2.png) [@kevinduhe](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/kevinduhe)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/2 "2017-04-25T18:57:33Z")

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While we’re sharing, here’s my lifetime!

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/d/db6e9047f2ce3bb00a8d77d493419f23cd82ce22.png)

Very Solid! 💪

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**Author:** ![areffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/areffelt/32/15255_2.png) [@areffelt](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/areffelt)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/3 "2017-04-25T19:28:44Z")

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Maybe I should make this a lifetime statistics title! -EDIT: thanks whoever did it!

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/d/d89278c9e51a5036f940c9a4403a600ceb068a70.PNG)

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**Author:** ![adriantanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/adriantanner/32/12886_2.png) [@adriantanner](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/adriantanner)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/4 "2017-04-25T20:07:13Z")

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Here are one of my printers’ stats. The following two images are from the same printer hardware that was renamed part of the way through its service life, which was about 1.5 years. The second image has no print success stat because I was doing science and disabled the feedback prompt upon opening the cover. Fun fact: this printer printed a large percentage of parts that went in [R2D2](https://formlabs.com/blog/how-to-create-models-larger-than-your-3d-printers-build-volume/).

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/f/f564293b983e80b9e5e30b67f4cc3c949beb627c.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/2/2da77d6fa07a26a58cfed5c853166627a0abf5fc.png)

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**Author:** ![fantasy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@fantasy2](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/fantasy2)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/5 "2017-04-25T21:15:28Z")

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I win on the prints completed stats and largest print. 😄 6 months of lifetime for this printer.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/9/93307d5cb3f523d27d5b2df724c8aadb18837b48.png)

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**Author:** ![Volguus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/volguus/32/7962_2.png) [@Volguus](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Volguus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 7:46am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/6 "2017-04-26T07:46:11Z")

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OK, I’m right on track… more use than it felt like, actually.

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/8/84e39a116017b8ac197fb888644702069fc1ea7c.jpg)

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**Author:** ![kevinduhe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/kevinduhe/32/7999_2.png) [@kevinduhe](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/kevinduhe)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/7 "2017-04-26T17:19:30Z")

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> [@areffelt](#):
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> -EDIT: thanks whoever did it!

You are very welcome 🙂 Lets see some more stats! 👍

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**Author:** ![brainglow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/brainglow/32/9462_2.png) [@brainglow](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/brainglow)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/8 "2017-04-28T09:25:43Z")

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Ive just had the printer for two days but here’s my stats 😃

32ml resin used

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/4/42eef3490e5722223fe32dc75d88774eb0192974.jpg)

I have a question on that, how much will I actually get from the cartridge before its considered “empty”?

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**Author:** ![Frew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c0e974/32.png) [@Frew](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Frew)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/9 "2017-04-28T17:28:59Z")

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Cartridges are 1L and the tank will use about 250mL of this. You’ll start to see ‘cartridge low’ errors when the amount of resin in the cartridge alone is insufficient to complete a print. Note that even if the cartridge runs out in the middle of a print, you can oftentimes still complete the print using the remaining resin in the tank.

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**Author:** ![areffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/areffelt/32/15255_2.png) [@areffelt](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/areffelt)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/10 "2017-05-05T13:06:19Z")

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New printer is running great! 😁

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/2/2335b9bb231310a30057084d10cfb32b69971898.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Zenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/zenica/32/12099_2.png) [@Zenica](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Zenica)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/11 "2018-03-24T17:45:43Z")

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My first Form2:  
 ![SL Lifetime](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/5/5e289e1fcf81105eab1a93cca2ea6e4cf7e9bf95.JPG)

My replacement Form2:  
 ![SD Lifetime](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/f/f2379552aacac80a48d9218a9ae635c629ca7c33.JPG)

So far, I am unimpressed.

A for more useful statistic for me is this and these stop errors are all from the same print:  
Print resumed  
12:29 PM  
Paused with Error  
12:25 PM  
Print resumed  
12:19 PM  
Paused with Error  
11:47 AM  
Print resumed  
11:32 AM  
Paused with Error  
11:32 AM  
Print resumed  
11:08 AM  
Paused with Error  
10:59 AM  
Print resumed  
10:41 AM  
Paused with Error  
10:33 AM  
Print resumed  
10:24 AM  
Paused with Error  
10:24 AM

Print resumed  
10:02 AM  
Paused with Error  
6:25 AM  
Print resumed  
6:16 AM  
Paused with Error  
6:12 AM  
Print resumed  
6:06 AM  
Paused with Error  
6:05 AM  
Print resumed  
5:58 AM  
Paused with Error  
5:58 AM  
Print resumed  
5:31 AM  
Paused with Error  
5:31 AM  
Print resumed  
5:29 AM  
Paused with Error  
5:29 AM

Print resumed  
5:22 AM  
Paused with Error  
5:22 AM  
Print resumed  
5:17 AM  
Paused with Error  
5:14 AM  
Print resumed  
5:03 AM  
Paused with Error  
5:01 AM  
Print resumed  
4:55 AM  
Paused with Error  
4:53 AM  
Print resumed  
4:37 AM  
Paused with Error  
4:37 AM  
Print resumed  
4:28 AM  
Paused with Error  
4:28 AM

Print resumed  
4:15 AM  
Paused with Error  
4:15 AM  
Print resumed  
4:14 AM  
Paused with Error  
4:13 AM  
Print resumed  
4:07 AM  
Paused with Error  
4:07 AM  
Print resumed  
4:05 AM  
Paused with Error  
4:05 AM  
Print resumed  
3:58 AM  
Paused with Error  
3:58 AM  
Print resumed  
3:53 AM  
Paused with Error  
3:53 AM

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**Author:** ![Frew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c0e974/32.png) [@Frew](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Frew)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/12 "2018-03-26T15:51:44Z")

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These aren’t the sorts of success rates we strive for, and it looks like you might be having intermittent sensor disconnections. Can you [get in touch with our support team](https://support.formlabs.com/hc/en-us) so that we can help troubleshoot this?

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**Author:** ![kristian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/kristian/32/10260_2.png) [@kristian](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/kristian)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/13 "2018-03-26T19:10:59Z")

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This is what ours looks like so far. There’s a couple fails in there.

 ![statsED](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/5/58c7f32688179944d34fb9e33da3d7e8c363c767.png)

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**Author:** ![gjgomes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@gjgomes](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/gjgomes)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/14 "2018-03-26T19:23:16Z")

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Print success is highly dependent on supports and part files too. The majority of my failures are ones where I was pushing limits or lazy in my supports and I fixed them with the next print. That said, I definitely have my own issues with certain resin (flexible mostly for me). Overall, a machine that fundamentally changed the way we do development and has saved us over $100,000 in tooling and who knows how much in time. ![09%20PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/c/c87a8bc4af21a53db4ebe8940b129bc6b6e37119.png)

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**Author:** ![Zenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/zenica/32/12099_2.png) [@Zenica](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Zenica)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/15 "2018-03-26T20:50:49Z")

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I always add enough supports to secure the print. Often more than Preform adds. I’ve never had any part not adhere to the platform or dislodge mid-print. I am running a test print for Tech Support and the stop error occurred before line 1 even printed.  
My issues are not support related and Support assures me my file is not a contributing factor.

I’d very much like to see this resolved but my confidence in the product is eroding.

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**Author:** ![JohnHue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@JohnHue](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/JohnHue)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/16 "2018-03-27T06:51:15Z")

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Printing mostly in Grey / Tough but also Clear, Black & Durable.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/7/7958ca05865d010d524e12d6fd65958ac33731eb.png)

I have had a serie of partial failures recently with Tough parts featuring small rafts not adhering to the BP, and over the last 3 months this probably brought the stats down from \>95% to 90% success rate.

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**Author:** ![Zenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/zenica/32/12099_2.png) [@Zenica](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Zenica)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/17 "2018-03-30T15:26:48Z")

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The culprit has been identified. Frame taken from video made and supplied to Formlabs.

 ![Ball%20Bearings](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/f/f5d52d3e23772ec298499684aaefe1097c94d202.jpg)

Here’s to hoping there is charm in printer #3.

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**Author:** ![gjgomes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@gjgomes](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/gjgomes)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/18 "2018-03-30T15:47:05Z")

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yuck, that will do it i guess

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**Author:** ![CraigBroady](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/craigbroady/32/6106_2.png) [@CraigBroady](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/CraigBroady)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/its-a-pretty-solid-printer-and-process-aka-lifetime-stats/12984/19 "2018-04-03T02:18:53Z")

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@kristian wow you have one of the rare Doge printers. Those are hard to come by.

@Zenica that issue is crazy. I’ve never seen that kind of failure before on one of these machines.
