# How well does makerjuice work with form 2? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 20, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537 "2016-03-20T19:21:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Riku\_Pasanen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f08c70/32.png) [@Riku\_Pasanen](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Riku_Pasanen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/21 "2016-04-07T06:59:02Z")
I have printed also with Photocentric Firm with Form 2. I have similar results. Its quite flexible, good for solutions that need flexibility but overall, resolution is far from Formlabs resin prints. Some edges prints out round like “melted”. It forms “bubles” on surface… need some sanding after print. Prints could fail even with very simple shapes… The price tag is temptating, but not worth if this is the result. I tried it as 100% mix in Formlabs cartridge. 50/50 mixture could give better result, I dont know. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Miller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Andrew\_Miller](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Andrew_Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/22 "2016-04-07T15:26:54Z")
I tried the clear hard UV resin, and first of all it is a yellowy honey colour - not clear, and secondly, the laser seems to penetrate too far into the resin, curing thicker areas than it should. I ran it using clear settings. I am not sure if there is a setting that will bring the power down? ---
**Author:** ![Radovan\_Prikryl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/278dde/32.png) [@Radovan\_Prikryl](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Radovan_Prikryl)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/23 "2016-04-11T22:14:44Z")
I’ve tried various settings and the result was always just as bad. see [enter link description here](http://forum.formlabs.com/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/c/ca309b6c15fe71d735a04fd74cdee00f23c611d4.jpg) [enter link description here](http://forum.formlabs.com/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/7/7a6f2aa7b0314b0f00bb5d1f3ff4b6919dc5ebac.jpg) [enter link description here](http://forum.formlabs.com/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/d/d152c57eef75cdb41dc10eef1f0b48dec8d79e31.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![wisdomknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/wisdomknight/32/5540_2.png) [@wisdomknight](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/wisdomknight)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/24 "2016-04-11T22:35:14Z")
Figures theres no decent cheap alternative. So I went out and bought a good FDM printer, When my Form 2 shows up, Ill just use it for very special jobs, gallery pieces etc. This is definitely not a 3d Printer to experiment with, hobby, fun, etc. Well for me anyhow. I actually estimated printing with PLA/ABS is 1/10 the cost of printing with Formlabs resin. I cant believe Im still buying a Form 2! It better be good! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MakerJuice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/makerjuice/32/5957_2.png) [@MakerJuice](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/MakerJuice)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/25 "2016-04-12T00:37:02Z")
Just to clear up some confusion here. 🙂 We do not offer a clear resin, for any printer. Currently we only offer two resins for the FormLabs Form 1/+: - SF for Form 1/+ (Black, Green, Grey, Red & Yellow). This resin is softer and more flexible than the FormLabs regular hard resin. - WaxCast (Casting resin). This is for people doing direct investment casting. We have not yet tried our resins in the Form 2 printer. Hope that helps anyone reading! ---
**Author:** ![Alfredo\_Sola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Alfredo\_Sola](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Alfredo_Sola)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/26 "2016-04-12T06:29:58Z")
Well @MakerJuice as you can see from this and [other thread](http://forum.formlabs.com/t/form2-open-mode/7747)s, there seems to be a lot of interest in alternate, high quality resins that are cheaper. I have myself inquired from Form Labs about volume pricing. Still awaiting their response. Parts print fantastic in the Form 2, but the cost is unbearable except for detsil prototyping. And it is too bad because in many trades (like mine) it would be great to print short batches instead of injection moulding, which has a steep initial cost. At a fair price for the resin, one can start thinking even about farm printing. Hoping that Form Labs rethink their pricing, and/or the alternate resin providers can provide an equivalent at a fair price. ---
**Author:** ![Randy\_Cohen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/randy_cohen/32/1500_2.png) [@Randy\_Cohen](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Randy_Cohen)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/27 "2016-04-12T14:23:42Z")
I’ve used both MakerJuice and MadeSolid resins in my Form1+ with excellent results. For now, “Open Mode” on the Form2 is only partly open, no wiper or heater functionality. But the Form1+ didn’t have these things and these 3rd party resins worked just fine there, so they ought to work just fine for the Form2 as well. ---
**Author:** ![Alfredo\_Sola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Alfredo\_Sola](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Alfredo_Sola)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/28 "2016-04-12T15:56:15Z")
Randy, when you say excellent results, do these results include resolution? I print at 25 micron layer height and when Form Labs make a printer that allows for thinner layers I’ll use that. As I stated earlier I could throw a lot more work to the Form 2 if it could print at MakerJuice cost. That is half the price of Form Labs resin. @MakerJuice, do you need someone with a Form 2 to beta test your resins? ---
**Author:** ![keith\_sparks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cdc98d/32.png) [@keith\_sparks](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/keith_sparks)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/29 "2016-04-13T13:48:42Z")
We don’t have our Form 2 yet. But with our Form 1+ we have been having great success with a 50/50 mix of Makerjuice SF BLack and Formalabs Black. The Formlabs black is too thick for our printer (this is our second unit, support replaced our first unit.) Heating it helps, but our prints were barely usable with high failure rates. The mix is the perfect, and has had a very small failure rate of our prints. To be fair, our parts are small thin walled square shapes with sharp edges. Not the what the Form 1+ is best at. ---
**Author:** ![MakerJuice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/makerjuice/32/5957_2.png) [@MakerJuice](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/MakerJuice)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/30 "2016-04-13T19:42:19Z")
Hi Alfredo, I appreciate the offer, but we’re hoping our unit comes in sometime soon. If that doesn’t happen, we will reach back out to you! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Randy\_Cohen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/randy_cohen/32/1500_2.png) [@Randy\_Cohen](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Randy_Cohen)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/31 "2016-04-21T00:41:27Z")
Here’s a MakerJuice SF print. Approximately 1.2" wide. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/e/eb4953bae3f9d451a3b896b5dd9e97fd8d82adb5.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ChristopherBarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/christopherbarr/32/645_2.png) [@ChristopherBarr](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/ChristopherBarr)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/32 "2016-04-21T01:34:20Z")
Hi @Randy_Cohen can you give us your thoughts on it? It appears to print quite well. What about your take on shear, tensile, abrasion resistance, etc. Also, form 1 or 2, and at what settings? Thanks -C ---
**Author:** ![Randy\_Cohen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/randy_cohen/32/1500_2.png) [@Randy\_Cohen](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/Randy_Cohen)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/33 "2016-04-21T23:36:09Z")
Well this isn’t really the MakerJuice thread so I won’t go in to much detail. You can see the part printed really cleanly. The cured resin is more flexible than FL Clear (or Black), but it still exhibits a glass like break when overstressed. FL Tough is substantially more flexible than the MJ resin and FL Tough yields to a much greater degree without breaking. I used whatever MJ recommended as the correct setting for Form1+. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/3X/5/b/5bc2bdf993ff27c2e0eecab5010b25626fbb327a.png) [@system](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/how-well-does-makerjuice-work-with-form-2/7537/34 "2016-05-05T23:36:11Z")
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