# CERAMICS ok where's a good Kiln for under $500 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 16, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786 "2018-05-16T16:32:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alan1950](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6de8d8/32.png) [@alan1950](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/alan1950)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/1 "2018-05-16T16:32:45Z")
![AC_US218](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/formlabs/original/2X/6/6306eaab42275e3f0554c7ed37f14af8806fe58e.jpg) Rapidfire Pro Electric Kiln W/digital Controller for PMC Jewelry Making, Beadmaking by Tabletop Furnace Company from Amazon?? I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT KILNS so does this work?? ---
**Author:** ![pyue6299](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/pyue6299/32/11945_2.png) [@pyue6299](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/pyue6299)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 9:22am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/2 "2018-05-17T09:22:48Z")
This kiln does not heat up to 1300c. i guess it is not appropriate for firing ceramics resin. ---
**Author:** ![FredB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@FredB](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/FredB)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/3 "2018-05-17T19:08:19Z")
Your best bet is to find an electric (or gas if you like) kiln on ebay used. It’s probably going to be a local pickup so you just need to find one that’s reasonably close to you. You’ll need 1300c (or just a bit under that) ---
**Author:** ![cjryker06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@cjryker06](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/cjryker06)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/4 "2018-05-18T03:49:01Z")
> **[formlabs\_ceramic-usage-design-guide.pdf](https://formlabs.com/media/upload/formlabs_ceramic-usage-design-guide.pdf)** > > 2.63 MB According to their own PDF, 1200C is spot on. Yet they state cone 8 on the site - 2305 F. (1263 C.), so without clarification, we can’t really assume one or the other, but better safe than sorry at 1300 C. ---
**Author:** ![cjryker06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@cjryker06](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/cjryker06)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/5 "2018-05-18T03:50:46Z")
I had also looked at this, but I’d like to go a little hotter just in case it doesn’t actually hit the full 1200 C. Better to have a little headroom. ---
**Author:** ![pyue6299](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/pyue6299/32/11945_2.png) [@pyue6299](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/pyue6299)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/6 "2018-05-18T04:01:32Z")
That’s correct. But i am still not able to find one. ---
**Author:** ![cjryker06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@cjryker06](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/cjryker06)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 6:28am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/7 "2018-05-18T06:28:33Z")
Amazon has the same kiln (1200 C) listed at the start of this thread for $475. ---
**Author:** ![pyue6299](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/forum.formlabs.com/pyue6299/32/11945_2.png) [@pyue6299](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/pyue6299)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/8 "2018-05-18T06:31:42Z")
what is the name of it? ---
**Author:** ![cjryker06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@cjryker06](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/cjryker06)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/9 "2018-05-18T08:15:16Z")
> [@alan1950](#): > > Rapidfire Pro Electric Kiln W/digital Controller for PMC Jewelry Making, Beadmaking > > by Tabletop Furnace Company from Amazon …literally the one at the top of this thread. Rapidfire Pro Electric Kiln W/digital Controller for PMC Jewelry Making, Beadmaking by Tabletop Furnace Company from Amazon ---
**Author:** ![alan1950](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6de8d8/32.png) [@alan1950](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/alan1950)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/10 "2018-05-18T11:19:14Z")
none of the Amazon kilns go higher than 2200F so Formlabs where do we find a hotter affordable kiln?? ---
**Author:** ![gholson2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@gholson2](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/gholson2)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/11 "2018-05-18T15:25:17Z")
And here I was excited that the Ceramic Resin was only 150.00 now it looks like I will need to find a school to fire at lol. ---
**Author:** ![amos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@amos](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/amos)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/12 "2018-05-18T16:17:01Z")
Hi @cjryker06, @alan1950 This PDF is from a year ago, and is out of date. Sorry for any confusion - that shouldn’t live on [Formlabs.com](http://Formlabs.com) anymore. Here is the updated user guide. > **[ceramic-user-guide.pdf](https://formlabs.com/media/upload/ceramic-user-guide.pdf)** > > 1975.87 KB We use a SentroTech furnace here. A 1200C kiln will not fully sinter Ceramic Resin - the part will be porous after firing. Cone 8 (1271°C) is needed to reach a dense part. A fully sintered part will be quite a bit stronger. There are a lot of options for Cone 8 kilns sold by online ceramics stores, depending on your needs. [http://www.paragonweb.com/Pottery\_Kilns.cfm](http://www.paragonweb.com/Pottery_Kilns.cfm) It’s important to note that a kiln rated for 1200°C will not survive for very long if it is frequently used at the max operating temperature. ---
**Author:** ![cjryker06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@cjryker06](https://forum.formlabs.com/u/cjryker06)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.formlabs.com/t/ceramics-ok-wheres-a-good-kiln-for-under-500/18786/13 "2018-05-18T16:35:00Z")
Thanks so much for the clarification! I suspected it may burn out quickly at max temp for a while.